12.05.2006

Would you hire a manny?
A couple months ago, I finally brought on my sixth child, making my daycare legally "full." Now one of my daycare kids has a new little baby sister, and she will be joining our daycare in a few months. That will put me over on my numbers.

I have stressed about this for some time. I don't want to let anyone go. I like all of my daycare kids and their parents. But I don't want to have so many kids that I am frazzled and snap at the children. I want things to still be fun and for us to have circle time without total chaos.

So I must hire a helper.

Awhile back, I posted in my Want Ads, and all the replies I received were from mothers wanting to bring their kids along. Sure, they could change other kids' diapers, but they would also have their own kid in toe. One even went so far as to say, "I must warn you, my daughter is very clingy and needs to be held most of the time. I demand that she never be away from me."

Um, seriously? And I am going to pay you for that?

So I posted another Want Ad, making it clear that a daycare helper could not bring along their child. My goal, after all, is to improve my adult/child ratio. Also, I couldn't afford much, so I hoped for a college student.

I received a reply from such a college student: nineteen years old, had five little sisters whom he helped raise, loved children, was available when I needed him, was excited by the wage I could offer. We made an appointment to meet in person. He was humble, shy, sweet. He came over one day to meet the kids, and they flocked around him like he was a S'more. He threw footballs to three of the kids at once, and they practially fought over him.

Then my mom and dad, who were in town at the time, weighed in on this. I could not hire a male, they said.
"Why would a nineteen year old man want to work with children?" My dad asked.
Later, he rephrased the question, but asked it again.
And again.
"Um, dads like working with children, and they are men. Why wouldn't a man like to work with kids?" I asked.
Then my mom agreed, and my husband too.

My mom reminded me that statistically, men are more likely than women to sexually abuse a child. And besides, it was a little odd that a guy would want to work with children, I heard for the twentieth time. And while I know I can do an FBI check, those only reveal crimes that have already been committed and prosecuted, not unknown ones.

And a little nugget of doubt was planted in my brain. And I began to imagine what it would feel like if something were to happen to these kids who I am responsible for. I argued that this helper would never be alone with the kids; he would work next to me as an extra set of hands.

"Yeah," my mom said, "but be realistic. You know that at some point, he will be alone with them." And I knew she was right. I would have to run the baby upstairs, or go pee, or put someone into a time out. You just never know.

The most important thing to me is ensuring these kids are safe -- my own, and others who trust me with theirs. But I feel extremely sexist. What would you do?

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19 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not posted on your blog before, but have been reading it for sometime. Felt this was a topic I wanted to leave my two cents on, if thats ok?!

Personally, I have worked as a nanny, had male friends who were nannies and think a good one works as wekk as a female.

If he is going to be working alongside you and you got a good vibe off him, I dont see why you should not hire him. My little girl goes to and afterschool where two of the staff are college men and the kids think they are great. I certainly have no qualms leaving her in their care.

I understand the nugget of doubt, but then if you hire a female how can you be 100% sure they will behave accordingly when left alone with any of your charges.

Its a tricky one, chere, I hope it works out for you.

1:24 PM  
Blogger Elizabeth said...

I agree that he sounds great. If you are there with him, you will be aware of most of what does on. It's hard to get by the stereotype of male abuse, but he really does sound great. I hadn't even thought of the doubt that someone my child is with might sexually abuse him. Yipes! Now it's in my mind...

3:47 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Sam and Elizabeth - thank you for your feedback! Now I am thinking I should have listened to my initial instinct and not been swayed by those who don't know him... I'm still thinking about it though. Thanks again for commenting!

4:09 PM  
Blogger Me said...

... and some day he'll probably be a Daddy. A very good Daddy. :)

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes. I had a male babysitter for my son and they loved each other. Not every man is a perv.

By the way - know any daycare providers in the western suburbs of chicagoland?

If not know what questions I should ask when I call around?

4:43 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Everyone - good comments. Keep 'em comin'.

Lotta - one of my online daycare provider friends is in Chicago; not sure which area. I will get back to you.

Lotta - what questions should you ask? Ah, you came to the right place:
* do you smoke/drink/have pets?
* What are your hours?
* What are your rates? Is there a deposit (refundable)? Is there any type of annual arts/crafts fee?
* Which meals are included (i.e., lunch but no breakfast)? Do you have a menu, or can you tell me what you typically serve?
* do you have a structured day? What is it?
* Is there circle time? Arts and crafts? Any sort of preschool curriculum? Daily, or just every now and then?
* Do the kids watch TV? How much? Supervised? Which shows?
* How many times and how often do they go outside?
* Do I pay for your vacation and if so, how many days?
* What about when I go on vacation? Do I pay to hold my child's spot?
* What happens when you are sick? Do I pay your sick days? Do you provide a backup daycare provider, or do i find my own?
* Are you closed Federal Holidays? Any other closures?
* Do you have a contract (or parents' handbook) that I can read in advance?
* How do you handle discipline? Do you ever spank?
* How do you handle naptime? What if mine doesn't nap?
* What is your favorite thing about watching children? Why did you choose this profession? What is your least favorite aspect of the day? How do you cope with that?
* Will there be other adults here during the day, ever?? Do other adults live in the house? Can I meet them?
* References/FBI check/ or call your department of social services to make sure they have no criminal or other charges against them.
* and finally: Are you licensed (in most states this means they are CPR/first aid certified, have training in things like germs and medicine, have had to childproof the home, and have yearly inspections.)

5:16 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Lotta: what town are you in, exactly? I am told "west suburbs" is a "big area."
:)

5:26 PM  
Blogger Cristina said...

One of the best people I've seen around kids is the guy that does our gymnastics class. He is so sweet and loving with the kids. Granted, I've often wondered what he's doing at 30 teaching a baby gym class because it doesn't seem like a "guy" type of job (sorry, I know that's stereotpying), but he genuinely seems to love the kids and like what he does.

I'd say, go with your gut. If you feel at all uncomfortable for whatever reason or if you think it's going to stress you out to wonder about it, don't hire him, but if you really think he's the best candidate, give him a shot.

Can you do a two-week trial period with him?

8:38 PM  
Blogger Cristina said...

p.s. I tagged you for a meme at my blog.

8:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I personally would do the background check before dwelling on it further. If he has crimes, eve the past ones that should give you a good indication of his behavior.

If he has three DUI's and has an aggravated assault charge, then obviously that's a big NO. However if his record is clean and you get along with him, go with it.

Men can be just as good as providers as women can. I know you know that, but it doesn't hurt to be said again.

Have you asked the parents how they would feel? If you're getting a lot of objections there, that would be a good cause. Maybe have him come one afternoon before pick-ups and have him meet all the parents, they can also help you judge.

Good luck!!

8:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was in college as a child development major and a guy named Brandon was in almost all of my classes. He worked in a church nursery school. He was great with the kids. He wasn't a sex criminal, as far as I know, and he was straight (he almost knocked up a girl we affectionately named "Library Girl"). He was amazing with the kids. Children LOVE men, they gravitate towards that fatherly thing. I think it would be a great arrangement, honestly. It is good for kids to have a male influence. If you are nervous, do some reference checking and try not to leave him alone much with the kids until you are comfortable. Personally, I believe some guys just like working with kids...no funny business involved....but there are those "other" cases, and you do have to be careful.

9:10 AM  
Blogger Jackie said...

I've never commented but have been reading your blog for a while - I really enjoy your writing! :)
I worked at a day care before my kids were born (now I'm a SAHM). We hired a teenaged boy to come in after school and the kids looooved him! He was great with the kids and you could tell he really enjoyed his job.
I like the idea of a two week trial if that's possible. That way you can get a better feeling if it's going to work out and you can be 100% sure that you're comfortable with the situation.

9:29 AM  
Blogger Mama's Moon said...

I must agree with your parents. I've never felt at all comfortable with the thought of a 'manny' caring for children - let alone mine. There are too many proven statistics out there pointing to waaaay too many possibilities for things to go terribly wrong, no matter how sweet, kind, shy and irresistible-to-the-kids this young man is. I say "children's safety first" and keep up the search for an expeience female.

Thanks for bringing this up, I'll be linking this post on an upcoming post on my site called "Monday Morning Munchies". And, I'll be back!!!!

9:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The first home-care provider I left Bub with had a husband who was very much involved in the children's care, and I loved that about her house - Bub responded really well to him. I think it sends a really important message to children (boys especially) that men and women can be interested in them and involved in their care.

Do a police check and then trust your gut: sexual abuse usually involves extensive "grooming" - it's not something that takes place suddenly, in a room full of children, while you're peeing in the next room.

12:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many women don't have stereotypical female gender traits such as compassion, love of children and nurturing. In this same way many men don't have stereotypical male gender traits such as being aggressive and assertive. As we all know this to be true trust your instincts, do a record check and call references. If you suspect that anything innapropriate is occurring deal with it then. But he sounds great so don't be stopped by an irrational fear that all men with an actual interest in children are pedophiles!

1:09 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

Anonymous- I never thought that all men with an interest in children are peds. In fact, my first instinct was that I liked him, so much, in fact, that I offered him the job. But when others planted a seed of doubt (I know, I know, I am blaming others, but anyway...), I could not ignore it, being that their safety IS the most important thing and I am 100% responsible for them when they are in my care. So a small "nugget" of doubt was enough to give me worry.

I know not everyone has the stereotypical gender traits. My concern was the statistical fact that men are *more likely* to be peds. not that all men are peds or no men are nurturing.

Sorry if I am sounding defensive. But I am faced with 2 strong emotions here: 1) that I have always considered myself a feminist and have despised gender stereotpyes; and 2) the sometimes overwhelming realization that I am so responsible for these little kiddos' safety.

Bub&Pie - good point about abuse not just happening in the way I described (while peeing). I did kind of think about that, but it is good to hear someone else say.

1:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it is sad that men are singled out as being potential child molesters. If I were a parent (well, I am, just not one looking for daycare) I would probably be happy to have my child get a male role model.

I just got my home daycare license and live near Chicago. If you want to have that other commenter email me (you can send her my email address) and tell me where she is maybe we can talk. I have no idea if she is anywhere near me, but you never know.

12:26 PM  
Blogger Andrea said...

radioactive girl - thanks for the comment! I cannot find your email address. Do you feel comfy posting it here in comments? We could have a lot to talk about if you are going to do a daycare! :)

8:58 PM  
Blogger theotherbear said...

I don't have kids but if I did I think I'd have no problem (in fact think it'd be a good thing) to have a male and female at a daycare.
It isn't any more risky than having males as teachers in just a few years from their current age, and there are plenty of those.
I just asked my hubby what he thought, because recently he surprised me by saying he did not want to be left alone in the room with my friend's 2 young girls, because he doesn't want to be in a situation when he can be falsely accused of anything untoward. (I thought that was sad 'cos those girls love playing with him, he is so good with kids.) Anyway he said he'd have no issue but might ask for the female child carer to be careful the man wasn't alone with kids for too long at a time. He said he wouldn't pull his kids out of the daycare though.
So in summary I think it's a good idea for a male and female to be there so kids get used to both, hubby thinks it's good as long as 'you're careful'.
Good luck!

6:05 PM  

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